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Q63. Should completion of a full-fledged DMAIC or DMADV project be an essential criterion for the hiring of a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt professional in an improvement manager job role? 

 

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No. Not at all. Completing DMAIC Or DMADV project undoubtedly will give great confidence for any professional in this field. The "Hands on experience to say". Such an experience is definitely required

No.  As per the previous question, if the organisation does not allow the BB/ GB to do a DMAIC project, the opportunity is not given to him to prove his skill set.    But in such cases,

Valid point Santosh, but    Given that in some industries (eg: Consulting)   where LSS is not encouraged but there are enough high quality profiles, would we want to be limited by this requ

NO.

It is necessary to have Lean Six Sigma skills and awareness about it, but executing a DMAIC or DMADV is not necessary. The person can also come from a Lean background and apply his experience derived by following the other methodology cycle followed for Lean projects ( 12 week cycle or 16 week cycles  or A3 approach) to be succesful in improvement manager role.

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No. 

As per the previous question, if the organisation does not allow the BB/ GB to do a DMAIC project, the opportunity is not given to him to prove his skill set. 

 

But in such cases, he can only refresh his knowledge and simulate a project experience and move on to next firm if there is an opportunity.


Hence the BB / GB should be ready to take up a project and prove his skill set at any point in time even if we don't get an opportunity.

He can also use lean approach instead of DMAIC / DMADV. 

So, the project using DMAIC / DMADV methodology application should not be a road block for his career growth.

 

 

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I would have preferred to say Yes, but there isn’t a lot of adoption by Organization around Lean Six Sigma methodologies - which means even if an individual has put in a lot of effort in getting certified, he/she may not get to work on a project because the org is not interested. So, for selecting a BB - an MBB or a highly experienced BB should have an in depth conversation with the candidate to just check for conceptual clarity / aptitude / functional experience / maturity level etc..

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Yes.   A Six Sigma experience in at least two or more should be the minimum criteria for onboarding into a Black Belt. 

Six Sigma gives a wide range of experience in the tools, analysis, and project management of a diverse team. Only with this range can one really go for the challenges that are part of Black Belt.

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Valid point Santosh, but 

 

  1. Given that in some industries (eg: Consulting)   where LSS is not encouraged but there are enough high quality profiles, would we want to be limited by this requirement?
  2. Even if someone were to claim having done a project end to end, there is no way to review the data and verify the findings on account of confidentiality. So we’ll limit ourselves to just checking only conceptual clarity anyway.
  3. Not every LSS intervention needs to be a project, even a well-timed and well-documented FMEA can help with prioritised corrective action or a well documented QFD can help with a well structured design process. So a certified BB who has a done a lot standalone interventions deserves a chance. 
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Yes, for the role of an Improvement manager, a full-fledged project experience would be absolutely necessary. An improvement manager would be responsible for the successfully executing multiple projects which needs to show significant improvement in savings. An improvement manager will also have to guide the members of the team which would need practical on hands experience for a manager.

Also on-hands experience would be necessary to carefully understand and work on the minor integrities which might not be acquired only with theoretical experience for a manager to successfully run & complete projects.

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Yes. In my opinion, full-fledged DMAIC or DMADV project is an essential criterion for the hiring of a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt professional in an improvement manager job role. Such a project would ensure that the black belt is retaining/refresh his/her knowledge through constant usage of tools and techniques.

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Just now, R Rajesh said:

Yes. In my opinion, full-fledged DMAIC or DMADV project is an essential criterion for the hiring of a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt professional in an improvement manager job role. Such a project would ensure that the black belt is retaining/refresh his/her knowledge through constant usage of tools and techniques.

There are quite a few manufacturing companies which even mandate atleast 2 six sigma projects(DMAIC/DMADV) to be completed as a prerequisite to become eligible for becoming a six sigma Black professional internal to, their organisation. The objective is to ensure that through such projects the black belt professional can have varied experience and can get a chance to explore more tools and techniques and also a chance to exhibit his/her skills and help the project team . Hence its mandated by organisations that black belt professionals do the DMAIC or DMADV projects.

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NO......completion of a full-fledged DMAIC or DMADV project not be an essential criterion for the hiring of a Lean Six Sigma BlackB Belt professional in an improvement manager job role and this is one huristic that the feternity needs to change.

 

It is important for the interviewer to assess candidate's knowledge and project completion is a good source to gauge from but this is not always true.  Reasons:

1.  Genuinity of projects cannot always be verified.

2. Success of the project cannot be established.

3. Level of participation of candidate in the project cannot always be checked.

 

In fact, projects could be misleading and could give an upper edge to undeserving candidates.

 

It is important for a candidate to know and apply SixSigma tools and techniques and that could be established even without a full fledged project.  

 

 

 

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Very good debate so far. While Krishnamurthy Rao and R Rajesh have favoured completion of a project with justification, Kavitha, Togy and Alex have given reasons why project completion should NOT be a criteria. 

 

The subject is of critical importance in Lean Six Sigma world. Let us see how the debate progresses in this week.  

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I would request all my colleagues who feel that project experience is not required, to empathize with the company that wants to hire . Let us refer to the analogy of a situation wherein a heart patient who has to choose between a MS in cardio without any experience in real operations and an MS in Cardio who has already performed successful operations. 

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No. 

Since Six Sigma is an approach for process improvement,  a person experienced in the area of operation acquiring skills and the techniques to be implemented  for process improvement can be a better pick than  a person who has handled improvement projects in other areas. However,  now a days there is a need for doing Projects has become a pre-requisite for handling Business Excellence function when it comes to hiring by organizations.  This I look as a drawback in hiring process.  

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Yes, As per my opinion. When we are talking about a strategic project using a structured approach of DMAIC or DMADV, then a trained personnel is required to drive the project SLAs.

 

Any professional who is not being aware of methodologies to be used in any of step or situation can cause a delay or cost to the project. To take appropriate decisions in a project, one must be statistically correct and should be able to draw a conclusion to a situation.

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YES

 

When the role is a managerial one, it is highly recommended to ensure that the person has hands-on experience in carrying out a project. Maybe it could be relaxed at a junior level, where the company would have the scope of getting him / her mentored. In fact, any good Blackbelt certification program will have the criteria to lead and complete a project using the structured approach. Some of the ambassadors had mentioned that the person could have come from a "Lean" background. This is also acceptable, so long as a project has been completed applying the appropriate tools. DMAIC / DMADV applies there as well.

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No. 

Since Six Sigma is an approach for process improvement,  a person experienced in the area of operation acquiring skills and the techniques to be implemented  for process improvement can be a better pick than  a person who has handled improvement projects in other areas. However,  now a days there is a need for doing Projects has become a pre-requisite for handling Business Excellence function when it comes to hiring by organizations.  This I look as a drawback in hiring process.

 

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29 minutes ago, Phani Kumar Nibhanupudi said:

No. 

Since Six Sigma is an approach for process improvement,  a person experienced in the area of operation acquiring skills and the techniques to be implemented  for process improvement can be a better pick than  a person who has handled improvement projects in other areas. However,  now a days there is a need for doing Projects has become a pre-requisite for handling Business Excellence function when it comes to hiring by organizations.  This I look as a drawback in hiring process.

 

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I do agree on the point about a person having experience in the area of operations acquiring skill and technique.... This person can definitely be of great help to the project lead/improvement Manager.....especially for FMEA

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On 1/5/2018 at 11:11 AM, Priyer said:

NO.

It is necessary to have Lean Six Sigma skills and awareness about it, but executing a DMAIC or DMADV is not necessary. The person can also come from a Lean background and apply his experience derived by following the other methodology cycle followed for Lean projects ( 12 week cycle or 16 week cycles  or A3 approach) to be succesful in improvement manager role.

No... Agreed with Priyer..

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3 hours ago, Vishwadeep Khatri said:

Very good debate so far. While Krishnamurthy Rao and R Rajesh have favoured completion of a project with justification, Kavitha, Togy and Alex have given reasons why project completion should NOT be a criteria. 

 

The subject is of critical importance in Lean Six Sigma world. Let us see how the debate progresses in this week.  

Yes,

The candidate profile should have Lean Six Sigma approach duly certified.This will cover the essential requirements at the foundation level.Still the problem solving acumen is something taken for granted for the skills.

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